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    • TOPOLOT Offline
      TOPOLO
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      I know, it would be better if it has been a F-35…. But, this is not what I like the most.
      Aside from Neozino great skins for MiG-21MF and MiG-21bis (that may have great value for ITO or Balkan theater), I’ve made the ancestor: MiG-21F-13 iz.74 early production (the tail looks like the one of the MiG-21F sans-suffix iz.72 rather than the one of later FL, PFM…)
      Default skins for KTO are DPRK and PLAAF (where the bird is known as J-7I)

      An ITO skin set is ready (EAF) and one is in progress (SyAAF)

      And 2 skin sets for CET : Poland and Czech (screenshots will come…)

      realease date is, as usual, 3-4 weeks.

      DISCLAIMER: None of the images, videos or comments posted by me here should be seen as a feature of any future BMS release and are only pure personal works.

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        ccc1tw
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        great job!

        does this ac have AFM coded?

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          TOPOLO @ccc1tw
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          @ccc1tw:

          great job!
          does this ac have AFM coded?

          I do not beleive this may add anything to the current flight model… (that is already quite accurate in term of performance and flight enveloppe, the main criteria for a target, isn’t it )

          Two more:

          DISCLAIMER: None of the images, videos or comments posted by me here should be seen as a feature of any future BMS release and are only pure personal works.

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            crazyTom @TOPOLO
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            One of my favourite 2nd Gen jets! Love it! Always wished to fly one, unfotunately for the SAS Mig-21 package (modded IL-2) we started with 21FL/PFM/PF and not F-13. Will it get a cockpit, if so, I can add a lot of info on pits in form of references.

            Cheers

            Tom

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              lazystone @crazyTom
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              Beautyfull update on the “Fishbed” ! 😄

              Great job, guys. 😉

              Cheers,
              LS

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              • neystratiouN Offline
                neystratiou @lazystone
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                Great work there Gentlemen, Bravo!!!
                Nikos.

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                  Stratos @neystratiou
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                  Beautiful!! And great choice!

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                    Eghi @lazystone
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                    @lazystone:

                    Beautyfull update on the “Fishbed” ! 😄

                    Great job, guys. 😉

                    Cheers,http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f82/lazystone/Smileys/hat_3.gif
                    LS

                    +1 🙂
                    And I see nice - The quadrature of the circle. 😉
                    Lovely model, guys!

                    Cheers,
                    EGHI

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                      Maverick_Buzzards @Eghi
                      last edited by

                      Great job guys!

                      Un grand merci, et un grand bravo!

                      Cheers

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                        TommyGun @Maverick_Buzzards
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                        Nice! And thank you for including the Polish version. Around 580 MiG-21s (in all variants) served in Polish Air Force. I wish we had as many F-16s… 😉
                        Great job, gents!

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                          ccc1tw @TOPOLO
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                          @TOPOLO:

                          I do not beleive this may add anything to the current flight model… (that is already quite accurate in term of performance and flight enveloppe, the main criteria for a target, isn’t it )
                          ]

                          Hmm…I mean…this hi quality Lod model must have gear compression dof.
                          Landing impact feedback would be great with FM edit.

                          bTW flying mig21 in Korea theatre is no joy, little chance to survive…but a vnam theater could be its heaven.

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                            TOPOLO @ccc1tw
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                            @ccc1tw:

                            Hmm…I mean…this hi quality Lod model must have gear compression dof.
                            Landing impact feedback would be great with FM edit.
                            bTW flying mig21 in Korea theatre is no joy, little chance to survive…but a vnam theater could be its heaven.

                            Understood…, I would prefer gear compression being managed also for OFM a/c (but this is something I have to manage with dev team)
                            Concerning theaters, you’re right in KTO, Fished are mostly dead meat, my favorite would be ITO 73 (as soon as we have a correct F-4E, that will arrive soon I beleive, and a Nesher)

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                              TigerShark @TOPOLO
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                              Nice one, now we will need one good F-8 Crusader to hunt it🆒

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                                Thaeris @TigerShark
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                                You know, it’s strange. I grew up thinking the F-13 had two guns, but from my last reading, that seems not to be the case. It seems the F did, with two cannon at 60 rounds per gun… which is not… awful. Wikipedia is telling me the F-13 with its single cannon was limited to 30 rounds! Crack shots only, I guess…

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                                  TOPOLO @Thaeris
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                                  @Thaeris:

                                  You know, it’s strange. I grew up thinking the F-13 had two gun, but from my last reading, that seems not to be the case. It seems the F did, with two cannon at 60 rounds per gun… which is not… awful. Wikipedia is telling me the F-13 with its single cannon was limited to 30 rounds! Crack shots only, I guess…

                                  You’re right
                                  MiG-21F iz.72 (sans-suffixe) had 2 guns with 60 rnd each
                                  MiG-21F-13 iz.74 had 1 guns with only 30 rnd
                                  And all the next, until MiG-21M iz.96 had no gun at all
                                  In fact, Soviet did the same error than US here, they believed guns were useless and the F-13 was the beginning of the trend.

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                                    Dee-Jay @TOPOLO
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                                    Great teamwork gents!

                                    Thank you 😉

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                                      Thaeris @Dee-Jay
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                                      Perhaps the belief that there were 2 guns comes from the fact that the Chinese ultimately reverted to using two cannons on the J-7s. If Wiki is right, the J-7s sent to North Korea would have been armed with only a single gun as well:

                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chengdu_J-7_variants

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                                        TOPOLO @Thaeris
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                                        First versions of the Chinese MiG-21F-13, called J-7 sans-suffix and its export version F-7A only have 1 gun, just like the soviet one.
                                        With the next version : J-7I, the 2 guns were back (and will remain in all later ones)
                                        North Korea received MiG-21F-13 iz74 from USSR (around 80), so with only one gun.
                                        Wiki mention China providing late version of J-7I and note [17] url confirm that, like other J-7I, they most probably, have 2 guns.

                                        DISCLAIMER: None of the images, videos or comments posted by me here should be seen as a feature of any future BMS release and are only pure personal works.

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                                          Lukas @TOPOLO
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                                          IIRC what I have heard, F-13 was the most pleasant Fishbed to fly (including BIS)….real sportplane.

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                                            crazyTom @Lukas
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                                            My info was the “PF” was the best to fly, featuring similar maneuverability than the F-13 but a better engine and more modern layout.

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