@Stevie:

Nothing but joy, here…I use a Warthog stick and a Cougar throttle. If your TQS is still holding up you can 1) convert it with a Bodner board; or 2) buy a TUSBA from RealSim. I’ve done both, and both have their easy points and tough points. For one, converting with a Bodner makes your TQS Mac/PC compatible (a WH stick works VERY nicely on a Mac as well). The TUSBA can be a bit fiddly to set up, but once you’ve got it you’ve got it.

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There is also another option if one still wants to use the TQS: Leave it plugged into the base of the Cougar stick. Have done that in the past and worked just fine alongside the Warthog stick. I simply placed the Cougar base in a corner under my desk so it didn’t get in the way.

No problem enjoy:p

@POLARIS1:

In the BMS install folder there’s an Excel spreadsheet made by Kolbe.
It looks quite intimidating in the beginning but, it has explanations and with a bit of fiddling you can set up a splendid .key file with an ease.
Dive into it and if you need any help regarding its usage just pm.

Good luck 🙂

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Aha and DOH Moment C:\Falcon BMS 4.34\Docs\01 Input Devices\03 HOTAS Setup\TM Warthog

Apologies community

Hi drtbkj,

Yes, that is exactly the post which I followed, and it worked for me, thank you very much.

I did briefly enable “Idle Detent” in Config but (as with other pilots) it seemed to only cause problems.

@Bolt-1:

Its a nice sale. but, I wish all the items were 40% off

Like the pendular rudder pedals - probably still too expensive - just less so.

So, great discussion but I’m a bit concerned with this as well and if I’ve read this all correctly was the issue resolved in a roundabout way for both Hat switches to be usable? I do have Voice Attack and from my reading it appears that Alternative Launcher seems to be the way to go over TARGET of which seems to be reviled in so many ways. I’m in all likelihood going with the Warthog and the TM 10th Aniv base and F16C setup

@drtbkj:

Pranne, one thing that my recent Warthog programming has reminded me of is that there is more then one way to solve an issue in BMS. Don’t be afraid to try your own approach, and the Forum is always ready to help.

Thanks…had no time to work on this until today, i will see what i can do myself.

@drtbkj:

When you were having the problem, how had you programmed it(TARGET or the regular BMS)?

Well, first a bit of context. 16 years ago I quit flight-simming and sold my Cougar. Finally, this Christmas, I got myself a Warthog and could not wait to load up Falcon4 (now BMS) again and get the memories flowing.

So, I jumped in pretty much straight away - damn the torpedoes etc. I did install the TARGET software, mostly to apply/check firmware upgrades, but just went straight in to BMS and (did the wrong thing by) setting up the stick then the throttle in the Controllers section. It seemed the intuitive way to get setup. Everything was messed up - even the axes - so now it was time to RTFM.

At first, given I had briefly visited the forum here for a check, I did try loading Morphine’s profile in the TARGET software, but running the profile timed out a few times. As I was just getting started, I decided I would go for a simpler (?) route.

So now I followed the Quick Start Guide in the BMS documentation specific for the Warthog, to the letter.

I checked that both the stick and throttle were detected by Windows 10 USB Game Controllers, and checked the axes and buttons were responding. All good.
I loaded BMS (via the standard launcher at this point), went to the Controllers window, selected the Stick, loaded the “BMS - BasicDX TM Warthog.key” and clicked Apply.
Went in to the Advanced section and assigned the axes (I don’t yet have dedicated rudder, so I assign the Throttle’s slider to rudder).

As I said, the buttons were reporting the correct actions in the BMS Controllers window, but then were not working when in flight, and were working again after exiting flight back to the Controllers window.

Next, I tried the TARGET software again, and this time was able to load Morphine’s “Warthog_BMS_Full_5_434.TMC” profile, without timing out. Now I went in to BMS, selected the “Combined” controller, setup the axes etc, tested OK, but again buttons were not working in-flight.

That’s when I posted of my problems here.

I had also downloaded the Alt Launcher, after seeing mention of it here somewhere, and the Mission Commander etc, but was not actively using it because I considered it to be far too advanced and not necessary as I was just learning to fly again (going through the BMS Training Missions). As I wasn’t using the Alt Launcher, thus far I hadn’t noticed the sections for AxisAssign and KeyMapping. Now that I did notice them I thought I would give them a shot, and they worked.

Other things I had tried along the way were:
1: (multiple) restarts of Windows
2: unplugging and replugging the USB cables for my stick and throttle
3: initially I had them both connected through an unpowered USB2.0 hub, but I did transfer them to motherboard USB ports (no improvement)

Thanks, will def. check it out!

Hello ,

Is there anyone have the same issue with the pitch switch , not functional (freeze at off position , but I ear the click sound) , I use Warthog_BMS_Full_5_434 Morphine profile .

Rgds.

Good Day, All,
I recently got a Warthog and have set up the throttle POV as my comms button using Voice Attack. I would like to have the buttons emulate a held down keystroke when the button is held. I can get the command to repeat, but not “hold”.RTFM’ing the VA manual hasn’t been a help.
Any tips?
While I’m here, I’ve noticed that since I’ve been doing comms via the WH, I don’t get the normal/newer comms “bloop” sound, though UHF and VHF illuminate properly on the DED. I did get “bloop” on the old HOTAS(x-65).
What I get sounds like the old “chirp”, and no it’s not the datalink sound

Please share the answer 🙂

NP, I’m glad to hear you got it sorted!

Uwe

Is the “re-center” function a part of BMS itself? I would think that re-centering your head tracking gear should also re-center it in BMS if it’s set up correctly.

You should be able to use “Joy2Key” (a share program that costs around 8€, but has a fully functional version available for download) or VoiceAttack (also shareware) to achieve this.

You’ll need to make sure F12 isn’t used in your current falcon BMS setup though.

All the best,

Uwe

All the best,
Uwe

@Stevie:

This effect is further amplified in a RL center-stick trainer with RL stick forces…just flying low level in the mountains can wear you out, and if you also have a few A/A engagements along the way you’re pretty drained all the way around after a two hour session…teaches you a few things and changes your perspective. Like it’s supposed to be doing.

Once you get used to this though, you come to both expect and appreciate it. And prefer it, really…really don’t like a stick that’s too light or too fast now…my CH stick sits in a corner collecting dust.

What stick do you use now ? Modded ?

@Gray_Lensman:

You shouldn’t have double entries… press the click to reset button and you should see Joystick Not Set and Button Not Set then move the POV again. The Click to reset is a small square with a circular counter-clockwise arrow in it. It functions similarly to Clear DX in the Alt Launcher by clearing erratic/incorrect entries.

Compadre, you are two for two. I just had to take a moment to think about what VA was trying to do.

@drtbkj:

Thanks for the info, Gray.
I went into VA and inputted a new “Comm Down”. I set the keypress to the End key, and saved it . The command is now in my VA profile. However,when I check the " when I press button", the select box pops up and says joystick and button are not set,and does not recognize the button push (throttle pov down) .

@84hd79:

Have you gone into the VA settings and set your joystick? It won’t recognize the button press if you don’t do this first.

What 84hd79 is saying is to enable your joystick on the main screen before editing profiles… It looks like a game controller icon to the right on the opening VoiceAttack screen. It’ll toggle between Joystick Enabled and Joystick Disabled

@oakdesign:

Have a look Ito the Voice control sub forum. There are already some very good Voice Attack profiles around. Programming /setup one from scratch might take way more time than setting up a HOTAS

Copy. Just looking over the dialog menus I can already tell that’s a LOT of script to read through!

Hello everyone I need a little help. I created a basic profile and was testing it and up with an error for my throttle. Do anyone have any ideas how to correct this I am new with Target software?
Mapped plugin module “C:\Program Files (x86)\Thrustmaster\TARGET\Plugins\sys.dll”
Physical USB HID devices managed by script!
Currently plugged USB HID devices[4]:
1: “Joystick - HOTAS Warthog” - “USB\VID_044F&PID_0402&REV_0100”
2: “Throttle - HOTAS Warthog” - “USB\VID_044F&PID_0404&REV_0100”
3: “F16 MFD 2” - “USB\VID_044F&PID_B352&REV_0100”
4: “F16 MFD 1” - “USB\VID_044F&PID_B351&REV_0100”
USB HID device “Throttle - HOTAS Warthog”(USB\VID_044F&PID_0404\7&2FDB1284&0&3) selected
USB HID device “Joystick - HOTAS Warthog”(USB\VID_044F&PID_0402\7&2FDB1284&0&4) selected
USB HID device “F16 MFD 1”(USB\VID_044F&PID_B351\7&2FDB1284&0&1) selected
USB HID device “F16 MFD 2”(USB\VID_044F&PID_B352\7&2FDB1284&0&2) selected
Virtual HID devices managed by script!
Connecting virtual joystick…Done
Device name set to Thrustmaster Combined
Connecting virtual keyboard…Done
Connecting virtual mouse (absolute axes)…Done

main returned 0
Error: One of the selected USB devices (2) has been unplugged. Aborting script!
Aborting script (check output above for reason)…
Script stopped!

@hoover:

That program is really sweet, I just purchased a license, thanks again for pointing it out.

I kept having problems with discord’s PTT function when trying to use my racing wheel (discord just ignored all buttons on that wheel most of the time). With J2K I have now mapped four buttons on various controllers (warthog POV, g-25 shifter, t500rs wheel) to emulate the “right control” key and it works like a charm. Well worth the $7!

Another option to use for the WartHog throttle POV is VoiceAttack. You’ll probably end up using it for voice commands anyway and it has a feature allowing POV assignments for up to 4 devices with POV buttons.