LGB Falling Short (including AI)
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Do you see valid laser ranging near the bottom left of the pod during the last 15 seconds TOF? (E.g. L 3.4 ).
Have you tried manually firing the laser from release till impact? Is the target right under the crosshairs and are you in a point or area track and is the laser armed?
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Does your laser code match that of your weapons?
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Hi everyone,
I’m sure something must be wrong, and not just my piloting skills. I’m having so much trouble getting LGBs on target in the campaign on a certain mission. Straight and level, 350 knts, 16000ft, laser auto 15 seconds, set COMBAT etc. Five times I’ve failed this mission and not hit anything - but as you can see, nothing else in the flight can hit anything either!
Very strange :-s
Hi,
Please check all conditions that people mentioned already. If you still fail to hit, then please u/l the exact mission (Better when already close to target) to this thread and I’ll try to check it.
For AI missing, I’ve seen that happening (LGBs falling WAY short for them, they release too early). Unfortunately for AI the bug has no solution currently, I have a fix but you will have to wait until we can release an update.
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The other day, ITO Campaign, live wingie and I were heading to a bridge in the Suez area. I had this setup:
- LGBs from angels 18, 420kts.
- Master Arm ON
- Laser ON
- Laser code matched…Laser combat mode…and TGP screen said bombs and laser ready.
- Triple checked these. Once at takeoff. During flight out, and just coming in on the target.
- TGP was ready… locked onto the ramp side of the bridge.
- Didn’t go over 470kts…barely any G…during the entire mission to target.
- Autopilot on to the target and over it.
- I didn’t move the SPI…trained on the bridge, weather clear
- CCRP into the tgt…toss cue gone…other marching down the center line to the FPM
- Holding pickle…bombs separate well…PAVEWAY!
- Nice and steady over the target…TGP locked…laser firing
- Splash countdown gets to ZERO and no explosion visible
- I look around with the TGP and see smoke…bombs fell long/short…don’t know which side since I had to turn to RTB without exposing myself to threats to the south.
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The other day, ITO Campaign, live wingie and I were heading to a bridge in the Suez area. I had this setup:
- LGBs from angels 18, 420kts.
What AC and type LGB did you use? And give target name.
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You could also try to manually lase the target from time of release to impact…
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Greetings,
what was your distance from the target?
I had bombs falling short because I dropped them too far away and they might have run out of energy while steering towards the target. -
What AC and type LGB did you use? And give target name.
Tavor
Ac type: F-16C-40-IAF, GBU10 (var?), Suez North Bridge E2.I will try to manually lase the target in the future, Badger.
Staggolee, I was dropping CCRP…wouldn’t the LGBs only release when pickled if the launch parameters were met for alt/range/speed, etc.? I flew directly over the target since the autopilot was heading to that STPT.
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In CCRP, they will only drop when they have met launch parameters. In CCRP, the design idea is that you pickle and hold from outside the effective range, and the bomb drops when it gets in range - but you take your thumb off the pickle if you no longer consent to release.
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Ac type: F-16C-40-IAF, GBU10 (var?)…
OK! F-16D-40-IAF hit Suez North Bridge E2 with 2 GBU10 without problems. Dont forget to put LASER in CMBT mode by ICP + DED !!!
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i bet this is the problem. Forgetting the laser is in training mode. I have missed so many times because of the default setting. Wish there was a way to make this not the default
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Have Lockheed change it in the real jet
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Have Lockheed change it in the real jet
It can be part of a DTE load in the real jet, I think.
EDIT: on checking, I am mistaken in this
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Tavor
Ac type: F-16C-40-IAF, GBU10 (var?), Suez North Bridge E2.I will try to manually lase the target in the future, Badger.
Staggolee, I was dropping CCRP…wouldn’t the LGBs only release when pickled if the launch parameters were met for alt/range/speed, etc.? I flew directly over the target since the autopilot was heading to that STPT.
It was a D variant. Sorry.
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i bet this is the problem. Forgetting the laser is in training mode. I have missed so many times because of the default setting. Wish there was a way to make this not the default
Nope. Was in combat mode. Triple checked.
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It can be part of a DTE load in the real jet, I think.
That’s news to me. Any documentation for that?
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I suspect I am mistaken, had a look in the double sticks and found nothing. My bad!
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You may be lazing the target too soon. The LGB releases under CCRP conditions which means it will carry forward momentum towards the target while falling, following an arc enroute to target. Lazing too early or even from time of release will cause the weapon to point and fly towards the target…giving it a direct trajectory to the target and the bomb will fall short due to this effect. Try a shorter laze time…the default time usually works very well…I think it’s set at 8 seconds.