4.34 ATC : IMPORTANT INFORMATION
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Just an observation here, and not a big deal, but I did notice I could still hear Tower <—-> AI wingman comms when they were on approach after I made the switch to ground freq on my own aircraft. By design? Still on flight channel on VHF but of course those comms shouldn’t really come over that.
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Just an observation here, and not a big deal, but I did notice I could still hear Tower <—-> AI wingman comms when they were on approach after I made the switch to ground freq on my own aircraft. By design? Still on flight channel on VHF but of course those comms shouldn’t really come over that.
never seen that , IMO you were still on the approach or Tower frequency
check the frequency number input
unless of course you are flying a theater that is not korea where all frequencies have not been set up correctly
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never seen that , IMO you were still on the approach or Tower frequency
check the frequency number input
unless of course you are flying a theater that is not korea where all frequencies have not been set up correctly
I was definitely on ground and already had approved taxi clearance back to the ramp. Channel 2, default from the preloaded freqs. Heard the AI jet report final and tower respond back with the normal “check gear down…”. This was in the balkans so maybe I perhaps caught an airbase where there was a frequency overlap/duplicated feqs. I’ll try to remember to check that.
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This was in the balkans so maybe I perhaps caught an airbase where there was a frequency overlap/duplicated feqs. I’ll try to remember to check that.
be careful, this could be the tower UHF of ANOTHER airbase nearby ….
Probably some multiple entries in the station+ILS.dat
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be careful, this could be the tower UHF of ANOTHER airbase nearby ….
Probably some multiple entries in the station+ILS.dat
Was for sure my #2 man. I normally follow the overhead which by the time I switch freqs my wingmen are already down. Apparently tower got tired of waiting on me this time around and vectored us around in the pattern (which was cool) so it put my wingman into a standard visual from the 7 mile initial so we got spaced out a bit. I’ll double check the brief next time I mess around with it to see if there are common frequencies at the same field at play.
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never seen that , IMO you were still on the approach or Tower frequency
check the frequency number input
unless of course you are flying a theater that is not korea where all frequencies have not been set up correctly
Indeed, tower freq setup. Tower, ground, dep all have same frequency at airbase in Balkans. Disregard/Ignore me.
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Indeed, tower freq setup. Tower, ground, dep all have same frequency at airbase in Balkans. Disregard/Ignore me.
Not in all airbases though, in case there is any confusion for someone who didn’t try it.
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Question:
If #3 requests taxi on UHF GROUND ahead of the #1/lead and well before T/O time, and #3 is commanded by GROUND to hold present position and informed to be 2nd in line for departure…
… if moments later #1 requests taxi on UHF GROUND still well before T/O time, is it correct that: A. the #3 request is overruled, and B. this flight is queued last in line i.e. 6nd in line for departure?
Consequently the move to 6nd in line for departure meant we taxied and departed much later (T/O + 12 minutes), while our estimate was that the taxi slot for 2nd in line would have had plenty of time for the flight to be queued in (instead of last).
This has been observed in 4.34.2 multiplayer KTO campaign at Kunsan AB with busy ATO (day 1).
Is that correct and/or how is this handled best? I.o.w. can a wingmen accidentally screw up the flights intended taxi slot?
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Question:
If #3 requests taxi on UHF GROUND ahead of the #1/lead and well before T/O time, and #3 is commanded by GROUND to hold present position and informed to be 2nd in line for departure…
… if moments later #1 requests taxi on UHF GROUND still well before T/O time, is it correct that: A. the #3 request is overruled, and B. this flight is queued last in line i.e. 6nd in line for departure?
Consequently the move to 6nd in line for departure meant we taxied and departed much later (T/O + 12 minutes), while our estimate was that the taxi slot for 2nd in line would have had plenty of time for the flight to be queued in (instead of last).
This has been observed in 4.34.2 multiplayer KTO campaign at Kunsan AB with busy ATO (day 1).
Is that correct and/or how is this handled best? I.o.w. can a wingmen accidentally screw up the flights intended taxi slot?
a wingman shall not ask anything to the ground
if this is accidentally the case, i recommand the leader requests for a kick out of the concerned wingmen from the queue then request immediatly clearance for the flight
this will bring back the wingman in correct order
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Roger. Thanks JP.
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Follow-up question: if you ground abort a wingman to kick him from the queue, will AWACS and ATC still recognize him during later stages of the flight?
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Follow-up question: if you ground abort a wingman to kick him from the queue, will AWACS and ATC still recognize him during later stages of the flight?
Yes if the leader calls the ATC ASAP to re introduce the whole
Flight in the ATC queue (at least I think so LOL) -
Why is the change to departure frequency changed to when you’re airborne in the latest update? In real life videos I can find on the internet the change is given and made together with the takeoff clearance, just like it was in BMS before the update:
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Already answered on other threads.
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depends on the situation
depends on SOP
depends on locationBottom line, it’s much safer to hear what’s going around you as you’re on an active runway, hence on tower
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Why is the change to departure frequency changed to when you’re airborne in the latest update? In real life videos I can find on the internet the change is given and made together with the takeoff clearance, just like it was in BMS before the update:
both exist in real life
i decided to keep the players on the tower frequency because even after clearance to take off, the Tower can instruct to accelerate because arriving traffic.
if players were on the departure UHF already, they couldnt hear those calls…
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can we hear other flights in other packages if we punch in their frequency? because I did that and all what that did was to make the flight appear on the HSD in blue but no conversations
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That’s proof you’re on their UHF otherwise IDM wouldn’t work. So they were probably NOT talking on UHF, most comms are VHF for intra flight. UHF is made for communicating with other flights in your package (or not) when it’s a single flights, chances are they are not using UHF except for AI
I did that a lot in Tvt with no issue, all it takes is knowing the frequency of course and their callsign. Then you just call them and usually all responded (past the initial surprise effect ) -
did you actually call other flights and they DID respond?
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human yes