What if: Falcon 5 (Poll)
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Assuming Microprose will actually release Falcon 5, what would happen with BMS? Or is it impossible for F5 to happen?
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do we have any reason to think Microprose is doing another Falcon?
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no point answering a pipe dream
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4.36 might very well answer the question, even from Microprose’s perspective.
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Funny question.
Considering what titles have been promoted by the MP chance for F5 is 0 or smaller number.
So far they revealed only indie games. Creating from 0 anything which is barely similar to BMS4.35 it could take years and tens of millions of dollars. Nobody ever will fund this. -
Funny question.
Considering what titles have been promoted by the MP chance for F5 is 0 or smaller number.
So far they revealed only indie games. Creating from 0 anything which is barely similar to BMS4.35 it could take years and tens of millions of dollars. Nobody ever will fund this.I heard Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos just wrote the checks…. pocket change.
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No chance in hell Microprose would make such a deep and detailed study sim. I won’t say ‘again’, since original F4.0 was nowhere near what we have here.
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No one can reach a fraction of some aspects this software has reached, and will only get much much better…
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Falcon BMS will exist as long as the developers have the passion and motivation to keep updating it. If Microprose want to use TitanIM to expand their current military only simulations into gaming for everyone, sure they will be able to make some good simulation games, but if they don’t buy the Falcon IP from the current owner they probably give another name. It will be interesting if Microprose decide to make a move on military simulation games, because there will be more competition and the fans of this genre of games, will have more games to enjoy.
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Here’s some new competition for the BMS community from Microprose! The future of Falcon 5 maybe?? :mrgreen:
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It’s possible that there could be a Falcon 5, but I would expect it to pale in comparison to Falcon 4 given what I’ve read about developers “forgetting how they did the Dynamic Campaign Engine”…which frankly, I also have a difficult time believing (though I also have zero idea just how many of the original creators are left out there). I would expect BMS to be the last, best…for a very long time. Hopefully the continual improvement will also continue, though at some point the Viper itself is going to appear outdated.
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No one can reach a fraction of some aspects this software has reached, and will only get much much better…
AGREED 100%!!
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Here’s some new competition for the BMS community from Microprose! The future of Falcon 5 maybe?? :mrgreen:
:heh:I thought this was awesome… and I really mean it!
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I was invited to a podcast where their community manager was.
I would say that Falcon 5.0 is very far fetched… They need cash right now and Falcon isn’t a money cash cow as per say…
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I thought this was awesome… and I really mean it!
Awesome indeed Seifer! And yes, once its released, I’ll be adding it to my Steam library! :thumb:
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There is no way Microprose is going to undertake Falcon 5.0 or any other in-depth simulation ever again. In fact, Falcon 4.0 left Spectrum Holobyte/Microprose with a huge gaping hole in their P&L.
A year after release, the game had generated revenue of less than $5 million USD - the development costs would have been far beyond that.
And remember, Falcon 4.0 was developed in the golden era of PC flight and combat simulation, though admittedly at the very backend of this era.In the 90s, there were so many military flight simulators on the market - think about the Janes’ Combat Simulation Series (ATF, Longbow, US Navy Fighters, IDF, F-15), Flanker/LOMAC, EF2000, Tornado, F-22 Total Air War, etc….
Of these only Falcon 4.0 and Flanker/LOMAC (now BMS and DCS respectively) remain is highly niche products.
There’s a very good reason for this almost complete collapse of this market segment. The investment is huge, the market is small and niche and the Return On Investment (ROI) is years - not weeks or months.
It also exclusively limited to the PC market and requires expensive joystick/HOTAS to enjoy.You’re not going to win over any investors to cough up the cash required upfront to fund the development of a product - whereas they can make far more money investing in the production of mainstream games available on both PC and the console market, with a much greater audience and, for AAA titles, almost immediately ROI upon release.
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There is no way Microprose is going to undertake Falcon 5.0 or any other in-depth simulation ever again. In fact, Falcon 4.0 left Spectrum Holobyte/Microprose with a huge gaping hole in their P&L.
A year after release, the game had generated revenue of less than $5 million USD - the development costs would have been far beyond that.
And remember, Falcon 4.0 was developed in the golden era of PC flight and combat simulation, though admittedly at the very backend of this era.In the 90s, there were so many military flight simulators on the market - think about the Janes’ Combat Simulation Series (ATF, Longbow, US Navy Fighters, IDF, F-15), Flanker/LOMAC, EF2000, Tornado, F-22 Total Air War, etc….
Of these only Falcon 4.0 and Flanker/LOMAC (now BMS and DCS respectively) remain is highly niche products.
There’s a very good reason for this almost complete collapse of this market segment. The investment is huge, the market is small and niche and the Return On Investment (ROI) is years - not weeks or months.
It also exclusively limited to the PC market and requires expensive joystick/HOTAS to enjoy.You’re not going to win over any investors to cough up the cash required upfront to fund the development of a product - whereas they can make far more money investing in the production of mainstream games available on both PC and the console market, with a much greater audience and, for AAA titles, almost immediately ROI upon release.
I doubt Microprose has anything in common with the original Microprose other than the logo, it’s just another brand passed on and on like Norton
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Here’s some new competition for the BMS community from Microprose! The future of Falcon 5 maybe?? :mrgreen:
:heh:Interesting Sim , I wonder if the DCS fanboys will complain about the very 90s graphics? they do so already with BMS, Yet BMS surpasses the graphics of the Original F4 by at least a decade, Fact i say it on a par with the Original LOMAC, They must shit in their eyes
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It’s possible that there could be a Falcon 5, but I would expect it to pale in comparison to Falcon 4 given what I’ve read about developers “forgetting how they did the Dynamic Campaign Engine”…which frankly, I also have a difficult time believing (though I also have zero idea just how many of the original creators are left out there). I would expect BMS to be the last, best…for a very long time. Hopefully the continual improvement will also continue, though at some point the Viper itself is going to appear outdated.
I concur
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F5=BMS