Seriously impressed!
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Awesome comeback!! At first I thought it was just a trolling attempt but yeah, I can see how frustration can build up to the point of posting the original post.
First, if you studied to be able to fly AF, expect to study more to fly BMS. Not because they changed the sim, but because they took the training wheels off. Things like threat rings in the MFD… AF used to do it for you, BMS doesn’t. Things like that. There is a big curve just to get this thing set up — the proper joystick profile, heck, we even have a “proper” .key file callback formats!!!, then making sure your axii are set up correctly, brakes are not inverted, setting up the DTC, chaff and flare programs, changing FOV if you fly multi-monitor, extracting gauges and MFDs if you have a screen for that, and so on and so forth — and that’s even before you fly!! But once that’s done, that’s done and you can move on to learning the sim. The F-16 still flies like the F-16 but some “procedures” have changed from AF.
So… welcome to BMS! You’ve had your rant (and I’m sure you’ll have more!!) but as long as you are here to learn the sim, the community will be with you both in ranting and in learning
Remember: It’s not Falcon if you don’t do “the dance.” They’ve just changed it from “dancing” to get the darned thing installed; now it’s “dancing” to get the darned thing set up correctly!
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After having flown F4AF this “New” look hmm… how can I put this. Very dissappointed. From everything I read about this new look to get pilots back to the flight sims I expected a super look straight out of the box. Now granted, I have now downloaded the 2nd update, but I don’t know if I missed something about the sim. The MFD’s need magnifying glasses to see. I thought I would get to shoot from the begining, I did go through the key setup to make sure I could get the feel for some stuff. My 2nd flight in Fighter Sweep I had an enemy plane right in front of me, I pulled the trigger to shoot…Chaff and Flares! Seriously? Instead of bullets I dropped Chaff and Flares.
I still have my F4.0 still installed so I can go back to that if this doesn’t work out.
I’m sure there will be plenty of comments for me to try. I will take everyone’s advice for the sim to see what I can come up with. And yes, I did change the resolution.
How much money did you spend on BMS? How much went to the BMS team? What right do you have to be entitled to outrage?
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How much money did you spend on BMS? How much went to the BMS team? What right do you have to be entitled to outrage?
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he got all apologetic on page 2
easy to miss though
anyway yeah setup’s a pain of necessity, unfortunately no matter how much time is spent on the UI design, more complexity in game = more complexity in setup. maybe not an entirely linear curve, but pretty close.
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Feel free to send me a message. I pissed all over this group and am sorry I did. I do have a thick skin and will take all comments to heart. If you think I’m stupid Mother****er and a giant asshat, feel free to let me know your thoughts. I deserve them.
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How much money did you spend on BMS? How much went to the BMS team? What right do you have to be entitled to outrage?
I would have spent a couple hundred $$$ it that’s what the program had cost. I’ll take free any day, but would also have been willing to pay.
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Thank you all for your advice, and help with the sim. I don’t normally rant, but that WILL be my last on this forum.
Again, thank you.
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Last rant, but not last post, I hope.
Thank you all for your advice, and help with the sim. I don’t normally rant, but that WILL be my last on this forum.
Again, thank you.
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I pissed all over this group and am sorry I did. I do have a thick skin and will take all comments to heart. If you think I’m stupid Mother****er and a giant asshat, feel free to let me know your thoughts. I deserve them.
I think you’ve apologized and made your position clear. We all have our off days sometimes and I guess you just posted on one of those days.
Stop worrying about it and move on to learning and enjoying the sim. Lots of help available in this community. With time, you’ll understand why the initial responses to your first post were what they were, you’ll appreciate the “RTFM” responses, and you’ll learn about “2-3 Falcon weeks ” but for now, make yourself comfortable and don’t be shy with the questions.
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I think you’ve apologized and made your position clear. We all have our off days sometimes and I guess you just posted on one of those days.
Stop worrying about it and move on to learning and enjoying the sim. Lots of help available in this community. With time, you’ll understand why the initial responses to your first post were what they were, you’ll appreciate the “RTFM” responses, and you’ll learn about “2-3 Falcon weeks ” but for now, make yourself comfortable and don’t be shy with the questions.
Yeah.
Just don’t yell at us anymore. We’re very sensitive.
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When was I yelling?
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First, Dm, welcome to BMS. When I read this part of your first post I thought to myself I understand why you’re frustrated. I have found BMS the best combat sim I have ever flown. But, real pilots don’t fly without a lot of training, and neither do we. I think you mentioned spending 5 hours on set up? Well, it took me too weeks to get everything up and running. Then, on my first mission the jet wouldn’t move because I didn’t know the brake “reverse” button in set up has to be clicked!
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One of the best trolling post for ages
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Last rant, but not last post, I hope.
I’m not completely silent. If needed, most likely will be a need for, I ask questions about what I can’t figure out by myself
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First, Dm, welcome to BMS. When I read this part of your first post I thought to myself I understand why you’re frustrated. I have found BMS the best combat sim I have ever flown. But, real pilots don’t fly without a lot of training, and neither do we. I think you mentioned spending 5 hours on set up? Well, it took me too weeks to get everything up and running. Then, on my first mission the jet wouldn’t move because I didn’t know the brake “reverse” button in set up has to be clicked!
So, I feel your pain. But, if you take the time and have the patience you will be rewarded.The 5 hours was not set up in the sim, that time was spent getting the right program (torrent) to allow me to download the program, unzipping, install, and a host of other things. Plus the restarts required to get everything set. So no, the 5 hours mentioned was not setting up within the sim, sorry I didn’t clarify.
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I can understand your frustration, I had plenty of it when I started trying to setup bms, it can be difficult! I had a lot of issues with the keyfiles and such things, but a bit of time reading here and learning settings, I have it running ok these days. Good luck
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I completely sympathize with the annoyance of initial BMS setup. It is a royal pain in the butt. I wish everyone who was interested in BMS could sit down at a computer with a complete setup so they could discover what the post-setup BMS experience is. That should give either the motivation to endure the process of setting up their computer to use BMS or save them the time if they don’t like the experience. Out of the box BMS is practically a pile of parts instead of a working whole. They can be assembled but it takes an investment of time and effort. I wish it wasn’t so but that’s just how 18 year old software utilized on a wide variety of hardware for a wide variety of user preferences is.
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The 5 hours was not set up in the sim, that time was spent getting the right program (torrent) to allow me to download the program, unzipping, install, and a host of other things. Plus the restarts required to get everything set. So no, the 5 hours mentioned was not setting up within the sim, sorry I didn’t clarify.
So you’ve not spent any time setting up the sim yet. Expect 2-3 hours, depending on your setup or desires. It’ll get easier once you get used to where things are located in BMS.
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I completely sympathize with the annoyance of initial BMS setup. It is a royal pain in the butt. I wish everyone who was interested in BMS could sit down at a computer with a complete setup so they could discover what the post-setup BMS experience is. That should give either the motivation to endure the process of setting up their computer to use BMS or save them the time if they don’t like the experience. Out of the box BMS is practically a pile of parts instead of a working whole. They can be assembled but it takes an investment of time and effort. I wish it wasn’t so but that’s just how 18 year old software utilized on a wide variety of hardware for a wide variety of user preferences is.
I understand the frustration someone can get with “the dance,” but surely, someone does not jump from Ace Combat to BMS? The people who find out about BMS through the “normal” channels come from other sims, where setting up of controls is already part of the process? There will be the odd one or two that find a YouTube video and explore what BMS is about, but the OP is not one of those as he has come from AF. Surely he has had to set up his controls in AF? Maybe less so than what you need to set up in BMS (ie, DTC, MFDs, etc.) but there is a setup process nonetheless.