Is true?
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Conclusion: Stay tuned, we might share more or not depending on how much we are ready to communicate.
Don’t expect more for now… The old falcon guys know I am speaking aboutI followed the Facebook and FL Discord posts (so I’m aware of the source).
And yes, I like yoke’s too ;).Even when a little teaser is welcome (I’m pretty sure this one is not 100% Photoshop magic) and because Max mentioned the “Old Falcon Guys”:
In the past (till 4.34U1/2 and the release of DCS F-16C), the BMS Dev team worked more in the underground and than released something big which was awesome, in the most important areas “finished” and had massive impact on our community. I liked this “underground” policy much more.
Releasing WIP material about such a sensible topic (fake or not) in social media/Discord is not helpful (as this example shows). It increases the will of certain users in those networks to get MORE and MORE. It produces unnecessary pressure and confusion.
And I can imagine: it also creates some confusion inside the BMS team as well.Is that the official policy now?
Or just a personal policy?
Why creating this hype train? What you guy’s fear? DCS? Microprose?
Or did I miss something here?Even if the temptation using social media is big (because it creates mostly much more “feedback” on a input), I would love to see that the BMS team show force as a unit again (I remember the Dev war’s in the past months in the open forum) and speak one language again as a TEAM.
My 2 cent
Cheers
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I followed the Facebook and FL Discord posts (so I’m aware of the source).
And yes, I like yoke’s too ;).Even when a little teaser is welcome (I’m pretty sure this one is not 100% Photoshop magic) and because Max mentioned the “Old Falcon Guys”:
In the past (till 4.34U1/2 and the release of DCS F-16C), the BMS Dev team worked more in the underground and than released something big which was awesome, in the most important areas “finished” and had massive impact on our community. I liked this “underground” policy much more.
Releasing WIP material about such a sensible topic (fake or not) in social media/Discord is not helpful (as this example shows). It increases the will of certain users in those networks to get MORE and MORE. It produces unnecessary pressure and confusion.
And I can imagine: it also creates some confusion inside the BMS team as well.Is that the official policy now?
Or just a personal policy?
Why creating this hype train? What you guy’s fear? DCS? Microprose?
Or did I miss something here?Even if the temptation using social media is big (because it creates mostly much more “feedback” on a input), I would love to see that the BMS team show force as a unit again (I remember the Dev war’s in the past months in the open forum) and speak one language again as a TEAM.
My 2 cent
Cheers
MicroI have no idea why you think the team is not United ?
As a matter of fact, in >15 years that I know BMS the team has never been so productive than those last months
People are leaving people are joining , nothing unusual it happened a lot in BMs life
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I set faith aside for Jedi temples. Teasing not makes one great. Especially with great talents to demonstrate.
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I have no idea why you think the team is not United ?
As a matter of fact, in >15 years that I know BMS the team has never been so productive than those last months
People are leaving people are joining , nothing unusual it happened a lot in BMs life
Thanks for the feedback and clarification. My opinion is a sum of what I’ve noticed in the forum the last year.
Cheers
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Those of us who feel grateful to all who contributed to BMS development over many years feel equally grateful for open communication, dev videos like what Mav posts, screenshots and hints, as well as discussions of features. It is also really really cool that the team is going along with the times, using diverse channels, social media etc and setting up events, which all leads to more and more people finding out about BMS. Your energy and effort is effin awesome!
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In the past (till 4.34U1/2 and the release of DCS F-16C), the BMS Dev team worked more in the underground and than released something big which was awesome, in the most important areas “finished” and had massive impact on our community. I liked this “underground” policy much more.
Yes we are pretty much “underground” as usual, I don’t think anything have changed.
Releasing WIP material about such a sensible topic (fake or not) in social media/Discord is not helpful (as this example shows). It increases the will of certain users in those networks to get MORE and MORE. It produces unnecessary pressure and confusion.
And I can imagine: it also creates some confusion inside the BMS team as well.I disagree. Even before I joined BMS, as RV team Dev, I remember back then there were leaks of some videos showing “New FM” (Which clearly was more than just a .dat file changes) or HMCS. I remember those vids were something that made everyone feel like: “Yea there is something out there that is developing”. I don’t remember this was in any way a bad thing.
Is that the official policy now?
Nope.
Or just a personal policy?
No… it is what it is. Some, including in the team tried to analyze the “Why”, and some even gone further and tried to measure or decide the psychological reason behind it (I remember terms like “Immediate gratification”, “crowd love”, maybe my mother didn’t liked me enough when I was a child, who knows? :mrgreen:), but honestly?? the why? Because I feel like it and there is nothing wrong about that! I feel like showing the community a glimpse of new stuff and I don’t think it’s such a bad thing.
Why creating this hype train? What you guy’s fear? DCS? Microprose?
Or did I miss something here?Come on man but this is no hype train!
Fear? I have no idea what you mean. Fear of what? Loosing my great income from developing BMS? I already said at other places that I will keep developing BMS and enjoy flying it even if I’m left as the only person around to do both. Yes MP is fun but I can do with SP as well, did it for many years and for me that’s fun as well.
Even if the temptation using social media is big (because it creates mostly much more “feedback” on a input), I would love to see that the BMS team show force as a unit again (I remember the Dev war’s in the past months in the open forum) and speak one language again as a TEAM.
As it was mentioned already above me, we are at great time in BMS days and I’m happy with the current state. More good things will come!
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Yes we are pretty much “underground” as usual, I don’t think anything have changed.
I disagree. Even before I joined BMS, as RV team Dev, I remember back then there were leaks of some videos showing “New FM” (Which clearly was more than just a .dat file changes) or HMCS. I remember those vids were something that made everyone feel like: “Yea there is something out there that is developing”. I don’t remember this was in any way a bad thing.
Nope.
No… it is what it is. Some, including in the team tried to analyze the “Why”, and some even gone further and tried to measure or decide the psychological reason behind it (I remember terms like “Immediate gratification”, “crowd love”, maybe my mother didn’t liked me enough when I was a child, who knows? :mrgreen:), but honestly?? the why? Because I feel like it and there is nothing wrong about that! I feel like showing the community a glimpse of new stuff and I don’t think it’s such a bad thing.
Come on man but this is no hype train!
Fear? I have no idea what you mean. Fear of what? Loosing my great income from developing BMS? I already said at other places that I will keep developing BMS and enjoy flying it even if I’m left as the only person around to do both. Yes MP is fun but I can do with SP as well, did it for many years and for me that’s fun as well.
As it was mentioned already above me, we are at great time in BMS days and I’m happy with the current state. More good things will come!
I’m happy too. Thanks for the feedback and thanks for the good work!
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All I want is the CTDs gone, everything else is gravy……
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All I want is the CTDs gone, everything else is gravy……
No need to pray for that, we’ll deliver
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I remember back then there were leaks of some videos showing “New FM”… I don’t remember this was in any way a bad thing.
It was a bad thing for ME…! That exact video signaled my retirement from dev’ing…!!
I remember the week that video was “released”.
Hustler calls me up and says: “Well - we are closing down.”
I was like: “WTF…?! How can you tell from a flight model…?”
He said: “Watch it again.”Bidda bam; Bidda Boom. Rest is history…
…so yea it won’t go back…
Makes me think of Red (who I think you might know… ).
We had a leak of a mid-cycle beta for FF4.0. Bad leak. Whole package leaked.
I don’t want to name any names, because I don’t hold a grudge. Jeon. That was the name I shan’t mention.Anyway - 24 hours later, Red (what a CHAMPION he is), contacts me and T-Rexbian.
He has the guys REAL name; the name of the company where he works; the name of his boss, and the PHONE NUMBER of his boss in Korea…!!! Hahahaha. :rofl:I guess one doesn’t f**k with RED…!!
pr0nstar
(In a way, dev retirement was a blessing in disguise. I am no longer forced to be subjected to Pumpy’s chronic spelling issues.)
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T-Rex… Now that’s a name I haven’t seen in…
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I set faith aside for Jedi temples. Teasing not makes one great. Especially with great talents to demonstrate.
I enjoy what I have, not what I could have. I heard somewhere it was the key to happiness. A daunting challenge would it be to make me change my mind on that.Concur, Compadre. Or, as I like to think it-Don’t get so wrapped up in where you want to be that you forget to make the best of where you’re at.
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It was a bad thing for ME…! That exact video signaled my retirement from dev’ing…!!
I remember the week that video was “released”.
Hustler calls me up and says: “Well - we are closing down.”
I was like: “WTF…?! How can you tell from a flight model…?”
He said: “Watch it again.”Bidda bam; Bidda Boom. Rest is history…
Makes me think of Red (who I think you might know… ).
We had a leak of a mid-cycle beta for FF4.0. Bad leak. Whole package leaked.
I don’t want to name any names, because I don’t hold a grudge. Jeon. That was the name I shan’t mention.Anyway - 24 hours later, Red (what a CHAMPION he is), contacts me and T-Rexbian.
He has the guys REAL name; the name of the company where he works; the name of his boss, and the PHONE NUMBER of his boss in Korea…!!! Hahahaha. :rofl:I guess one doesn’t f**k with RED…!!
pr0nstar
(In a way, dev retirement was a blessing in disguise. I am no longer forced to be subjected to Pumpy’s chronic spelling issues.)
THIS video ?
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Oh man, the fluttering. I remembering that guy saying “Woa, you guys are trying to make me believe my F-16 is trying to flap his wings like a bird to fly? What a lame sim”. I think I laughed to tears.
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THIS video ?
Surely not…? Way WAY “less” than that. There were no titles; no descriptions; no explanations.
No sound; no music; no production values. As “raw” as it gets. Positive it was just a Viper; climbing, rolling, stalling, level flight.
It was the weirdest thing. I was barely paying attention, but - Hustler saw it immediately for what it was.
It was such a… hmmmmm… such a nondescript video, but our forums were abuzz…!
I was all like: “m’eh”
Hee hee…! I clearly wasn’t ahead of the curve…!!
Ranger suggested we morph FF into a Team focused purely on Theatre Development, to feed this “new” Falcon which was surely emerging.
I was all: “No way.” Hahahahaha…!!! Well… a year later, I sure had that “m’eh” shoved up my arse…!!
Yep. I sure Love/Hate that original little “leaked” flight model vid.
T-Rex… Now that’s a name I haven’t seen in…
Most beautiful (and funniest) man ever.*
* Except for myself.
Arapr0n
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Surely not…? Way WAY “less” than that. There were no titles; no descriptions; no explanations.
No sound; no music; no production values. As “raw” as it gets. Positive it was just a Viper; climbing, rolling, stalling, level flight.
It was the weirdest thing. I was barely paying attention, but - Hustler saw it immediately for what it was.
It was such a… hmmmmm… such a nondescript video, but our forums were abuzz…!
I was all like: “m’eh”
Hee hee…! I clearly wasn’t ahead of the curve…!!
Ranger suggested we morph FF into a Team focused purely on Theatre Development, to feed this “new” Falcon which was surely emerging.
I was all: “No way.” Hahahahaha…!!! Well… a year later, I sure had that “m’eh” shoved up my arse…!!
Yep. I sure Love/Hate that original little “leaked” flight model vid.
Most beautiful (and funniest) man ever.*
* Except for myself.
Arapr0n
No idea what video you refer to then , really .
Not from me then , possibly a leak that went unnoticed by BMS crew
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Once the cork pops, that genie just won’t go back inside, 'eh…?
Excepting perhaps in your flaccid case.
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Why - in my case - attack…?