BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal
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I am wary of insulting you, because I enjoy the indecipherable accents in your vids.
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@Aragorn All along, I only think of you.
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I am sorry but these last 5 posts have what to do with the OFM current news? Mr. Waldorf, can we edit the clutter in this channel here, I am sure there are other forum channels for meet and greets or social strokes . . .
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@TGW From your sig, are you a MEMBER of the fighter’s mafia…?
Interesting. I now have a completely different impression of a previously respected group.
Good luck with your strokes. Don’t burn your palms.
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@Aragorn Hi, ‘Gorn. TGW is a valued friend and Mafia member . I am grateful to have such a friend. Meanwhile, I suggest we get “back to business”, which is to make the best F-18, and Other Jets, we can.
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@TOPOLO and @Mav-jp are both valued members of BMS with aerodynamics knowledge.
Internally, I trust their opinions without question on that matter…
Now, @Aragorn and @LorikEolmin are teasing you a lot and in a friendly manner.
Maybe if you did not take things so seriously, you wouldn’t have to be offended…
We all do that for fun, we take what we do seriously but we don’t take ourselves seriously…
If you want to understand BMS a bit more then you need to meditate this last sentence
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How the F am i involved in a discussion I’m not even part of ?
That’s fame ? ROFLMAO
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@Mav-jp said in BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal:
How the F am i involved in a discussion I’m not even part of ?
That’s fame ? ROFLMAO
The price of being a BMS Legend, perhaps…?
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Meanwhile, Happy Thanksgiving to those that celebrate it. The Update for today is that Hornet/SuperHornet continues at a slower pace due to RL stuff and Holidays. One specific that is looking promising regards the SH spin issue. We’re also adjusting our “philosophy” a bit. Instead of just trying to solve problems by adding G performance to the mix , we’re looking at things that make the jet fly better, and where things like the autothrottle work.
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Good Day,All. Today’s update is about the F-18C FM. We are on a bit of a hiatus due to RL things and Holidays . However, Hornet testing continues and I have refreshed the Mafia files with these current F-18C flight model files.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/58cjejuvdnd0sf7/F-18C.dat/file
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ccahmnbix0y72na/F-18C_afm.dat/file
These files go into 4.36/Data/any OFM-Chuckles-Osprey theater/sim/acdata
. The 3 functions - autothrottle , flaps, and take-off-trim self cancelling are all working. Now comes doing the best we can making the Hornet fly like a Hornet. The main issue still present in visual deck height on Enterprise. Today I’ll be testing other carriers and retesting ground based visualization.
This remains a WIP, but you are safe in loading them. I have tested them in 3 different OFM Family Theaters. They are stable.
These dats reflect our change of mindset. We’re no longer looking at max G performance and solving issues at the cost of other things. We’ve also come to realize that to fly the Hornet correctly, you have to fly it like a Hornet. Personally, it’s been fun learning that. I find myself telling myself “don’t fly it like a Viper”. -
Good Day, All. I took a little break from the Hornet today to take another look at the F-35C and the F-18E from the viewpoint of our “new” flight modeling mindset.
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/s5lbgpqay831n/8519(F-35C)
From this link you can choose either the Fifth Gen Cockpit or the Hornet pit, and both have the current dat/afm.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/hwaabxncryt78yq/F-18E.dat/file
https://www.mediafire.com/file/18ufxgfl9kouwq5/F-18E_AFM.dat/file
Like the Hornet, the immediate goal was getting the best performance while reinstating the autothrottle,flaps, and TO trim self cancel. The functionality has been restored, the 35C seems to fly well. A main goal with the Rhino has been to correct a tendency to flat spin. It seems to be doing better in that regard.
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Good Day, All. Today’s update is about the EF-2000. Mafia Member Scorpion82 has produced a revised flight model file
https://www.mediafire.com/file/6wmn9up7645mi1n/EF-2000.dat/file
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@drtbkj
Joe, I tried the new F-18E flight model for several carrier traps. The landing speed was lower than the “original” FM (about 135 kts on a light-loaded jet vs ~165 kts on the same jet using the “original” FM), which was nice because it provides a little more time when in the groove to make adjustments. However, using the new FM, I could not control the speed properly with throttle when Auto-throttle was on. Speed was all over the place. Here are some screenshots from LSOBot showing the “New” FM vs the “Original” FM:New FM (Case 3 recovery, night landing in fair weather):
Note how the speed is all over the place - Way Too Fast at X and IM, Way Too Slow at the ramp. My throttle (HOTAS Cougar) is right in the low-end detent when at this speed in this FM, so it was almost impossible to maintain speed in the bracket on the way in. This was repeatable (I did 4 traps, 1 waveoff and the behavior was the same).
Compare to this trap (exact same aircraft and scenario, same weather and nighttime) but using the “original” F-18E.dat and F-18E_afm.dat, the “original” FM:
No problem at all maintaining speed right in the bracket all the way through the groove.
So, while the new FM provides lower (and IMO more realistic) carrier approach speeds, I found it very difficult to maintain a steady speed in the bracket.
Would love to see the slower speed approaches but with the speed being better able to be controlled.
Thanks for your work on these flight models.
Regards,
Tomcattwo
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Hi, T2. Thanks for the input. I had gotten out of the habit of trapping in AUTO, so I’ll do some testing later today to repro what you’re seeing. I’m glad you like the lower landing speed, that was a goal.
Meanwhile, I have questions…- In your first test, was the dat/afm used what I posted 6 days ago?
- Would you pop over to our Discord and post the dat/afm from your second test run( the “original” dat/afm)?
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@drtbkj said in [BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM)
Meanwhile, I have questions…
- In your first test, was the dat/afm used what I posted 6 days ago?
Yes
- Would you pop over to our Discord and post the dat/afm
from your second test run( the “original” dat/afm)?
Sure.
Regards,
Tomcattwio
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Realy love the project, also would like to download your changes per aircraft basis, like f14, 5th gen cockpit for f22 or so, is it possible that you release your changes as “mods” per aircraft rather than complete campaigns ? So that i can implement stuff in to my campaign that i currently play (KtO)
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@SyntaxErol said in BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal:
Realy love the project, also would like to download your changes per aircraft basis, like f14, 5th gen cockpit for f22 or so, is it possible that you release your changes as “mods” per aircraft rather than complete campaigns ? So that i can implement stuff in to my campaign that i currently play (KtO)
Hi, Syntax . If you look in my signature you’ll find a link to the Mediafire Mafia Files. In there you’ll find 4.35-36 Data Files. In that you’ll find what you want, organized by jet. One thing though, these will not work in the stock KTO or Balkans. They will work in OFMKTO,OFM-Balkans, or any of the Theaters that have OFM in their names.
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Good Day, All,
As we have been discussing, we have been working with the F-18C and how it visually sits on the ground/flight deck.https://www.mediafire.com/folder/g021lul58qoj5/1799(f18c.Install+Pack+ver.12.22.22)
This link will take you to the 18C Files, and in there we have a early Christmas presents for you . The file called F-18C.dat has the “414 engine” mod. If you prefer the “404 engines”, then use “F-18C(2).dat”. You will need to rename that to F18C. Both use the same F-18C_afm.dat.
Install to: X/4.36/ANY THEATER WITH OFM DATABASE/sim/acdata. As usual , we suggest you back up the dat/afm that are there.
Our testing methodology was to get the jet to look right on land ,as the carrier deck height (set in the Editor) has an effect. So, if you have an issue on Deck, let us know and we can help with that. -
Here is a Bonus Update for today…
We hear 4.37 is coming out soon. As you may or may not know, new releases like this are usually standalones, you don’t need to uninstall 36 to get 37. So, the first update is that the OFM will continue to support 4.36 for the conceivable future.
Secondly, we have gotten a some new 4.36 jets, so are considering putting out an OFMKTO ver. 1.6.
We have the F-18E and F-35C sitting properly on deck, but are still working on the Panther flight model. -
@drtbkj rolling the drums…